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One interesting thing that Hubble could attempt, but the timing would have to be right, would be a terminator view (sunrise or sunset) of the landing sites in question. Even if resolution was still inadaquate to see the LEM proper, its shadow would be long enough to register something. It may not show anything conclusive, but I think it would be worth attempting.
I knew I was going to have an error in there somewhere. Hubbles resolving power is .05 not .005 thanks for checking. I guess the different numbers quoted from 'official' sites is part of the problem. ;D
That is the actual amount of "moon" that the hubble can resolve wich is around 30 kilometers across. Noy my words just the ones that designed it.
I'd be interested in a link or the name of who specifically said that, because it still sounds absurd on the face of it. Are you implying that because the moon's distance is a quarter of a million miles as opposed to "infinity" (for all practical purposes) that Hubble cannot get a sharp enough focus on the moon? Even the already posted pic of Copernicus probably shows features at least that small.
I'm very skeptical of that claim. Please quote a specific source.
Here the scale is 10 km, and that dot is allegedly the lander. Click on the link for a larger image of the site.
Here are the specs of the Clementine craft:
The field of view was 0.3 x 0.4 degrees, translating to a width of about 2 km at a nominal lunar altitude of 400 Km. The image array is 288 x 384 pixels, (pixel size of 23 x 23 micrometers) so the pixel resolution at the Moon was 7-20 m depending on the spacecraft altitude.
Here is the entire Specs site for Clementine that our better number crunchers can tackle:
It had a wide variety of instruments, including a infrared camera to measure the thermal emission from the Moon. Why couldn't it detect the metal on the surface absorbing all that solar energy. It would have come up as a hot spot on the surface.
Clementine Lunar Image Browser 1.5
Now here...here is a cool site...in where one can zoom in on any part of the Moon with just a click:
Now, here we have some images of sites of the Apollos, so we know that the areas can be isolated and imaged. And with todays better imaging capabilities, with Hubble, SMART-1 etc... we certainly can reproduce the imagery now - clearer, better, sharper.
If the spy satellites we have now in Earth orbit, claiming that they can take an image of license plates, I would think NASA would have the similar capabilities with their cameras.
The Apollo 10 ascent module, on the other hand, was jettisoned after re-docking with the CSM in lunar orbit, and then its engines were fired, injecting it into a solar orbit where it still exists!
It would be quite a cool mission to capture it when it's orbit ever brings it around close to Earth. I'm sure NORAD is tracking it.
Now, this site also provides the crash coordinates of the jettisoned equipment, including a huge booster rockets...I'm sure with the great velocity of the objects, that a good crater was created from the impact.
The seismometers left on the Moon by the crew registered the impact of the ascent module. (But note also that all the Saturn IV-B translunar injection stages also crashed onto the Moon before their respective LM's arrival -- this velocity had to be staggering, since the stage was basically accelerating all the way from the Lagrange point inwards?)
And here is a complete listing of all the impact/crash sites on the Moon:
Post by TheCriticalEye on Mar 26, 2005 19:24:49 GMT -6
Again Joe you are still making claims that in fact are total WRONG ! That is you have this grand idea that HUBBLE can take such close up pictures of the moon wich is totally rediculous.
Oh wait or is NASA hiding something again? ROTFL Earlier posts imade stated that it was 30 km in resolving power i take that back. Here is a site that really explains telescope power and resloving power especially WHY HUBBLE CANT SEE APOLLO SITES! geez ..... ( sigh)
Post by Chicago Astronomer Joe on Mar 26, 2005 22:27:21 GMT -6
Billy, Billy Billy...
If you keep LYAO and not only would you lack decent interpersonal conversation skills, but be buttock free as well - Stiff and straight as a board. But if it makes you happy, you are welcome to continue your Billydoms. No sweat.
I prefer to do my laughing reclining and feet up, as the floor is so beneath me...
Does Motel8 have magic fingers? Gee I hope so....
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