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[projectbluebook]

Yes ancient aliens

[Chicago Astronomer - Astro Joe]

The Universe doesn't make one of anything....so I have an open mind....and the evidence of ancient visitations is there for discussion.

[Centaur]

Nov 4, 2014 19:11:07 GMT -6 projectbluebook said:

Yes ancient aliens

Welcome to the discussion group, projectbluebook.

Sorry, but in my opinion yours is a ridiculous assertion that's been overly simply stated within a scientific message board, without solid evidence being provided. If extraterrestrials actually had come, I expect they would have eliminated our ancestors as dangerous vermin and competition for resources. Our ancestors were just as smart as we are; it was not necessary for extraterrestrials to guide them.

It has become apparent that the idea of deep space travelers is an outdated mid-twentieth century concept. Now we realize that computerized robotic devices far more efficiently perform the exploration of outer space. It wouldn't make sense for living beings to come here unless the intent is colonization. However, an uninhabited planet would be a far more sensible choice for colonization. 

Meanwhile, extraterrestrials don't appear to be here, no matter what some fictional movies have fun portraying. Again, no sound evidence. Simply believing what one "wants" to believe is completely contrary to the scientific method.

[jmorales21]

I do believe that there is life out there. In fact I think life is an attribute of the universe, as light is an attribute of the stars, etc. The universe is probably swarming with life.
Intelligent, technology capable life may be a different matter. For 3.5 billion years the Earth has been "alive", but only on the last few thousand years we can really see a technological civilization coming up. Out of millions of species, it took billions of years for ONE to come up with this level of advanced capabilities.
This invites me to think that space traveling civilizations are much more rare than we think. This, tied to the fact that galactic distances are enormous, makes me believe that UFOs are probably imagined by ours, more than real, and that an encounter with another civilization is an unlikely event.
Cheers,
Jose

[-=CROMAN=-]

Sure... Why not? Seems like a waste if we are the only "intelligent" life out here. The interstellar distance argument doesn't bother me because maybe another race mastered physics not yet understood by ours. Send the robots out first, take a look around and then make the trip yourself if you are interested.

[Centaur]

Nov 9, 2014 9:14:02 GMT -6 -=CROMAN=- said:

Seems like a waste if we are the only "intelligent" life out here. 

Seems is not a term used in the scientific method of investigation. Wastes can occur, even if our sensibilities find them unacceptable. Some planet had to be the first to evolve intelligent life and a technological civilization. With no evidence of technologically advanced civilizations on other planets, there is a reasonable possibility that Earth is the first to have developed one.

Meanwhile regarding the title given to this thread by the original poster, a UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object. It is not by default a flying vehicle piloted by extraterrestrials; it is simply something that the observer cannot immediately identify.

[-=CROMAN=-]

It "Seems" to me that this was an innocent question and you can get a tad bit condescending. Yes I know what UFO means and I was answering the question the way he asked it. You need to lighten up a bit.

[erikruud]

Nov 4, 2014 21:04:56 GMT -6 Chicago Astronomer - Astro Joe said:

The Universe doesn't make one of anything....so I have an open mind....and the evidence of ancient visitations is there for discussion.

I am still trying to come to terms with this statement and it's implications.

There is more than one Joe in the universe!

[spacecadet]

Yes, I do believe in UFO's for the following reasons:
U = many are Unidentified
F = they are Flying in the air and in space
O = they appear to be Objects

As for associating UFO's with intelligent life, I am still waiting for tangible proof.
Then I wonder ... why is the universe so vast and the known existence of life so limited?