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Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Thread Started on Jul 27, 2011, 3:01pm »
This Chicago Astronomer session at Conway Observatory was more than a week in the making, starting with a public post on another thread, tentative plans made through many emails, texts, and conversations, with the final plan going out via email at T-5 hours. I have to say the early hours of went down smooth as can be, with the Chicago crew arriving at the rendezvous within minutes of each other just before 7 PM yesterday.
I arrived at the observatory with Hillary an hour earlier, however, to open the building up, letting heat and stagnant air out, and bugs and breeze in. The sky could barely have been clearer, and Hillary set up her new 60mm shorty with Baader solar film for observing sunspots while I set up the CAS 6” refractor with white light filter. We locked everything up when it was time to leave to lead the crew to the observatory, so once everybody was assembled on site, we were viewing sunspot activity within a few minutes.
Hillary and I checking out sunspots with her 60mm shorty and Baader film. This is safely filtered. Do not look at the Sun through a telescope without proper filtering.
Bill wanted to join me up on the 16” observing deck for imaging, which was cool with me since I could easily take advantage of his incredible cranial library of deep sky objects. Patrick and Jordan were eventually persuaded to set up on the south end of the concrete circle, rather than in the field, to cut down on dew and mosquitoes. Hillary staked out a spot at the picnic table with her telescope, and I set up my Dobsonian near the east side of the pad for Jeremy to use at his leisure when not exploring with binoculars. Calumet Astronomical Society member Mike arrived while we were setting up scopes, and our friends Rich and Phyllis joined him for a second straight night of observing together.
Patrick and Jordan setting up.
Jeremy talking with CAS member Mike.
Beautiful sunset looking out towards the Purdue Calumet research observatory.
Hillary sets up her telescope.
With twilight fading, and scopes not yet ready, some of the easy going conversions were cut short, at least for me, so I could have the 16” ready as soon as Saturn popped through the clear evening sky. Around that time, clouds threatened to take away our lovely views of the southern Milky Way, but ended up staying near the horizon soup, and didn’t become a real issue until after midnight.
The crew gathered after viewing Saturn. L-R: Jeremy, Patrick, Jordan, Bill, Hillary.
Controlling the largest scope on site, I felt a responsibility to my urban friends to show a nice mix of standards that can be seen near Adler and the many city parks we’ve observed from, and things that night not be so easy to catch. We had a nice list of targets to choose from, but three were “must see.” That list was Pluto, Comet Garradd, and asteroid Vesta. We batted .333 on that list, which should get us considered for the Hall of Fame, right? That story later.
I spent a little extra time on Saturn. Having identified Titan, Dione, Tethys, and Rhea, I pushed beyond reasonable limits trying to catch little Mimas. The planetarium program Cartes du Ciel was showing Mimas just outside of the ring plane, but neither Bill nor I caught a glimpse of it.
Great Cluster M13, which I had struggled in vain to find at Adler Monday night was next on my list. Stars upon stars filled the field of a 40mm eyepiece. While patrolling briefly near the zenith, M57 couldn’t be passed up. I moved up to 26m EP, and put a bluish-green light pollution filter on it. (I used the LP filter because there is no 2” OIII filter in the eyepiece case, so it’s probably the closest broadband filter to the oxygen emission line of the nebula). I think the filter really brings out the Ring, but everybody else said the best view was unfiltered. Hmmph.
Bill was bouncing target to target, getting his exposures and moving on. When it’s time to slew, he throws so many great objects off the top of his head that it’s tough to choose one. At some point I went down to the observing pad to see how the guys and Hillary were doing. Hillary had a nice view of Saturn, Jeremy was happily scanning with binoculars, and Team Monaghan was working the 9.25” Edge HD and consulting a phone app. Later, Hillary brought her scope up to the observatory deck with me, and was pulling out the open clusters of Scorpius and Sagittarius while I worked their globular clusters.
Around midnight I heard Patrick had found Neptune, and went down to see it. Mike, Rich, and Phyllis were getting ready to leave. I stayed down on the circle with my star atlas, planning to pick off some of the smaller globs of the Teapot with my Dob. I was going to pad my list, not by starhopping, but by globhopping. It’s almost that easy. Once I had worked through and around the Teapot, I was going to go back upstairs to find Comet Garradd.
The clouds on the southern horizon were long gone, and practically forgotten. I think we all knew a system was coming in before dawn, but expected it later rather than sooner. While going for my Teapot globs, the entire sky clouded over. No wonder I couldn’t find M54! I was ready to wait it out, but after a few minutes of total cloud cover, the others were ready to pack. Alright, I guess. I went upstairs, and turned on the deck lights while I started packing my case. I heard Patrick yell, “You’re killing my night vision!” I looked up and saw stars again! Lights out!
Bill was packed, as was Hillary, so Patrick and I were the only ones with telescopes out. I didn’t know his plan, but I knew I was going to use this window to get Comet Garradd. Well, and M15. After a quick look at 15, I was searching the finder scope for faint stars, and possibly even Garradd itself. After numerous double checks of Cartes du Ciel, and itty bitty slew steps, I was sure I was there. Check the eyepiece. Yes! I shouted my favorite line of Bill’s, “Throw some power on it!” I knew Patrick was working that area, but didn’t know that he’d just found it too. Everybody thought I was yelling for him to try power. I was advising myself to change eyepieces, but by the time I had, we were clouded again. Oh no.
I let the 16” track, waiting for a sucker hole to confirm this comet. Everybody else was outside with Patrick when he found it, but I had nobody to confirm I’d found it. I was going to wait for confirmation. After a few minutes we were clear again, Bill came up and agreed that it was a comet, but with a weird nucleus. Almost a double nucleus, reminding me of the close-up encounter with Hartley 2 last year. Patrick said there was a faint star behind the edge of the coma. I’d hadn’t check down to that low magnitude yet, but it seemed right.
From that point on we worked sucker holes, catching Jupiter and moons, Subaru, and Luna. The northwest had been muck most of the night, but at 2:35 we caught #7 Iridium satellite, glowing up to magnitude -7. We had given up on Pluto without trying, since the first clouds hit us during the end of our prime window for it. I wanted Vesta now, but wasn’t getting enough clearing to work anything but Jupiter in the southeast. By 3 AM, the clouds had pretty much told us to go home.
The time whizzed by, as it always does. We came together under the sky, testing our own skills, and learning new ones. Sometimes we worked individually; sometimes we teamed up to find something. We each expected different things from this session, but I liked having this crew around, to push me, to test me. I think everybody got what they expected, as far as honing skills and learning. There was nothing to be done about the weather but ride it out and hope for the best, but we took advantage while we could, telescopes and binoculars funneling starlight to our eyes. It was a good night, and I hope we do it again.
Parting crew shot. L-R: Bill, Jeremy, Hillary, Jordan, Patrick. (Note: Patrick is holding the dust cover for the LX200 to represent Joe, who we all wished had been there with us).
L-R: Bill, Jeremy, me, Hillary, Patrick.
(My camera has been dropped one time too many, I think. I can take pictures, and see the files when the SD card is in the camera, but when plugging it into my laptop's USB port, the computer doesn't recognize any files, and says all folders are empty. I used my webcam to get screenshots scrolling through the camera playback. If I can recover the original files, I'll post them. These aren't good, but better than no pics at all.)
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #2 on Jul 27, 2011, 4:56pm »
What a very cool session!
I enjoyed reading the narrative and the search for elusive objects. I eager to see Bill's pics. ( I think he's part cyborg, with a celestial data base...but I don't say anything).
Pluto will be found before the winter!
I am anxious to visit soon and not only bring the Beast, but have some scope time with the 16".
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Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #3 on Jul 28, 2011, 7:49am via the ProBoards Mobile App »
Great write up Paulie, you really captured Tuesday night. Thanks again for letting me tag along! I was looking at something new for me at every turn that night almost all night, and I learned so much. I had a blast, am looking forward to hopefully doing it again someday with my own telescope in tow! Have a great time this week in Indiana, see you when you get back.
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #4 on Jul 28, 2011, 8:59pm »
Legend has it, instead of cutting the umbilical cord, they accidentally cut my RS-232. If only there was a buy-back program?! I digress...
They definitely have more than corn in Indy! Jammed packed with goodies all night long... el sol and sunspots, the cloud they call milky way, globs and more globs, saturn and her moons, dying star remnants, stellar fetal matter, sucker holes, eyechart called Subaru, candy striped Jupiter, surprisingly bright dirty snowball and to close it out,.........................the old moon.
Some pics of the solar appetizer Here are some pics to whet your appetite for next "moonless" nite...... nice big planetary aka stellar fecal matter, m27 dumbbell nebula 60sec shot, ISO 800 thru 80mm fract compare that to the tiny smoke ring, m57, Joe's fave 30sec shot, ISO 800 here it is cropped; the cats were able to show that companion star
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #5 on Jul 28, 2011, 9:29pm »
more wide-field dim sum, you say, why sure.... wild duck cluster, visible with binos from city 30sec, ISO 800 can barely see the "pillars of creation" in m16 eagle, oh well, that's 600mm focal length for you. 60sec, ISO 3200, tad bit noisy, for sure... m17 swan, visible from city on a very clean clear night 30sec, ISO 800 m8 lagoon 60sec, ISO 800 the trifid, i like the contrasting colors of the blue and red nebula, plus the dark lanes! 90sec, ISO 800 m22, bigger than hercules, just too south 30sec, ISO 800 m22 taken from Indy dunes with Vixen 200mm f/9 120sec, ISO 800
I like you, Paulie and the big CAT and all, but my anti-vibration pads failed to dampen my imaging setup on the wooden deck. Next time I'll be setting down at the concrete pie chart.
For a city boy, this was a bit of paradise, even with sucker holes....good friends, nice skies, less time on the road than rush hour in chitown. Next time, I plan to capture the comet!
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Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #8 on Jul 29, 2011, 3:51pm via the ProBoards Mobile App »
It was a great night! Been meaning to write up something but haven't mustered the time and energy simultaneously.
SO many things I've never seen before, or even attempted! Having Jordan along made it even better. So cool to be among so many friendly, more knowledgeable astronomers. Seriously thinking about joining up.
One of the old time Calumet astronomers, Mike, was next to me with his Meade 8" fork. He'd spent hours the last session unsuccessfully looking for NGC 6207. He found it Tuesday after a while star hopping. Only showed in his eyepiece if you jiggled the focuser to make it pop, and then it was faint. As soon as we got aligned, I was able to track it down and the extra 1.25" of aperture did make a difference. Mike concurred.
List: Conway 072611
Saturn Observed: low in the muck by the time we got fixed and I stopped bumping the scope! But there it was.
NGC 6207 (Spiral Galaxy in Hercules) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 22:50:21 "Awesome! Through 8"" & 9.25"". Much improved with aperture. Cheating. I feel guilty."
Pluto (Planet in Sagittarius) Didn't even try
Messier 22 (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 23:05:09
Messier 3 (Globular Cluster in Canes Venatici) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 22:45:53 "Great!"
Messier 53 (Globular Cluster in Coma Berenices) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 22:46:13 "Faint"
Lagoon Nebula - Messier 8 (Bright Nebula in Sagittarius) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 23:12:46 "First view"
Wild Duck Cluster - Messier 11 (Open Cluster in Scutum) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 23:19:19
Blinking Planetary Nebula - NGC 6826 (Planetary Nebula in Cygnus) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 23:05:25
Andromeda Galaxy - Messier 31 (Spiral Galaxy in Andromeda) Observed: Jul 26, 2011 23:28:51
Messier 32 (Elliptical Galaxy in Andromeda) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:07:14
Messier 110 (Elliptical Galaxy in Andromeda) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:07:08
Messier 10 (Globular Cluster in Ophiuchus) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:06:55
Ring Nebula - Messier 57 (Planetary Nebula in Lyra) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 11:20:23 "Through 16"" and 9.25"
Messier 12 (Globular Cluster in Ophiuchus) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:07:02
Jupiter (Planet in Aries) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 1:00:24
Europa (Moon of Jupiter in Aries)
Callisto (Moon of Jupiter in Aries) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 12:05:47
Messier 28 (Globular Cluster in Sagittarius) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:07:19
Messier 92 (Globular Cluster in Hercules) Observed: Jul 27, 2011 0:07:26
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #10 on Jul 29, 2011, 4:47pm »
I've also been meaning to finish up some loose ends here, but obviously I'm busy down at the star party. I didn't write down anything I saw last night, but remember most of them, and will submit a list when I get a chance for corroboration.
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #11 on Jul 30, 2011, 1:16am »
i drove near lowell this morning on my ride home from south carolina. i gotta say that the sky looked beautiful. i want to join you guys next time the opportunity comes around.
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Re: Chicago Astronomers Visit Conway Observatory « Reply #13 on Aug 1, 2011, 7:29pm »
Yep, Teapot and Scorpius. I was tempted in turning off my headlites just for a sec.
Upon arrival looking down onto the concrete pie chart from the observatory deck, I was "backseat astronomer driving" about one of the CAS astronomer setting his 8in CAT on the heating pad and potential boiling views thru the night. Patrick proceeded to set his scope on the grass. However, the threat of dew from the grass was greater than the heat from the pie chart. Patrick moved his setup onto the concrete. When I went to view thru Patrick's 9.25 CAT after midnight, I did not see any ill effects from heat.